describing twitter, jaiku and pachume to a net noob didn't go well. just couldn't comprehend the benefit...
11 months, 3 weeks ago.
16 comments so far
Gah my eyes!
Ahem.
Yeah, it can be a tough one. I've often been met with blank looks on that. Lately I've been describing it as a sort of public group instant messaging service where people from all round the world can converse with you.
Services like twitter and jaiku need to be spoken about in the context of the needs of people, we who already are here like this stuff because we (from a personality side of things) prefer our egos to be stroked. Others need functional reasons to use this stuff. And frankly, most people won't have a need to be in systems that are based on reputation and ego unless there is something more than reputation and ego that can be shown to them ;)
Maybe jaiku isn't about that. Damn, all this time I've been involved in interesting and entertaining discussions on jaiku I could have been spending somewhere else getting my ego stroked
How about in a college report? Not ego boosting enough? Fine, I retract my offer. I'll wing it. I'll write it on Brenda from the chippy whose hairnet is part of her head now.
Am I serious, yep. I study tech and communities, its actually pretty evident that most of what we call web 2.0 is just a huge ego stroke to people who want to be recognized for something. Its all good though, we all need that recognition from time to time. The key is keeping a humble heart and mind in the mist of this, and the tech totally doesn't foster this ;)
@arjw: Your talking about the, "look at me please, see, I do exist", thing? If so you've got a point, but at the same time these services do offer some nice opportunities for companies who have difficulty getting staff to communicate outside of the face to face work environment; no? Wouldn't it be nice if they understood those benefits without running the, "Whatever it is it's not for me", line at you,
Indeed, it would be nice if companies could cleanly take social networking and rock out something that was both socially relevant while also helping their bottom line.
Unfortunately, that's not reality for those who aren't tech influencers. We gravitate to this because we perceive a value in these services that others cannot see. The key for us is to "jump the shark" and demonstrate relevance to the place where the money lies: mainstream/casual/normob users. Those folks that would not be caught on Jaiku all day need to see the value, and most won't until the tech meets some aspect of personal relevance. This is the case with everything that has ever been invented, and this will remain the case.
Now, if you can (without creating a new service that needs a new API, marketing model, and extended beta test period with series XYZ funding) make it relevant to casual users, then lets do it. Because a lot of us have been trumpeting these services to folks for years now. But they aren't moving in the droves that we think they should. What can we do to make this more relevant? Can we answer that? If not, they why should they use it?
16 comments so far
Gah my eyes!
Ahem.
Yeah, it can be a tough one. I've often been met with blank looks on that. Lately I've been describing it as a sort of public group instant messaging service where people from all round the world can converse with you.
Or something.
11 months, 3 weeks ago by alexleonard
Services like twitter and jaiku need to be spoken about in the context of the needs of people, we who already are here like this stuff because we (from a personality side of things) prefer our egos to be stroked. Others need functional reasons to use this stuff. And frankly, most people won't have a need to be in systems that are based on reputation and ego unless there is something more than reputation and ego that can be shown to them ;)
11 months, 3 weeks ago by arjw
You want reputation and ego, go to Plurk! :P
11 months, 3 weeks ago by edythemighty
At least karma wise. Kwippy recently integrated karma too, but Plurk makes you rely on increasing your karma to change your layout and stuff like that
11 months, 3 weeks ago by edythemighty
I'm great.
11 months, 3 weeks ago by alexleonard
Come on, is no one going to stroke my ego?
11 months, 3 weeks ago by alexleonard
Maybe jaiku isn't about that. Damn, all this time I've been involved in interesting and entertaining discussions on jaiku I could have been spending somewhere else getting my ego stroked
11 months, 3 weeks ago by alexleonard
How about in a college report? Not ego boosting enough? Fine, I retract my offer. I'll wing it. I'll write it on Brenda from the chippy whose hairnet is part of her head now.
11 months, 3 weeks ago by Adventsparky
I'm sure that must have been part of her business plan.
11 months, 3 weeks ago by alexleonard
She's some entrepreneur. Was a stroke of genius on her part to put the fly zapper over the fryer.
11 months, 3 weeks ago by Adventsparky
@arjw: you cannot be serious? gasp
11 months, 3 weeks ago by Siriquelle
Sarcaism at my comment?
Am I serious, yep. I study tech and communities, its actually pretty evident that most of what we call web 2.0 is just a huge ego stroke to people who want to be recognized for something. Its all good though, we all need that recognition from time to time. The key is keeping a humble heart and mind in the mist of this, and the tech totally doesn't foster this ;)
11 months, 3 weeks ago by arjw
@arjw: Your talking about the, "look at me please, see, I do exist", thing? If so you've got a point, but at the same time these services do offer some nice opportunities for companies who have difficulty getting staff to communicate outside of the face to face work environment; no? Wouldn't it be nice if they understood those benefits without running the, "Whatever it is it's not for me", line at you,
11 months, 3 weeks ago by Siriquelle
Indeed, it would be nice if companies could cleanly take social networking and rock out something that was both socially relevant while also helping their bottom line.
Unfortunately, that's not reality for those who aren't tech influencers. We gravitate to this because we perceive a value in these services that others cannot see. The key for us is to "jump the shark" and demonstrate relevance to the place where the money lies: mainstream/casual/normob users. Those folks that would not be caught on Jaiku all day need to see the value, and most won't until the tech meets some aspect of personal relevance. This is the case with everything that has ever been invented, and this will remain the case.
Now, if you can (without creating a new service that needs a new API, marketing model, and extended beta test period with series XYZ funding) make it relevant to casual users, then lets do it. Because a lot of us have been trumpeting these services to folks for years now. But they aren't moving in the droves that we think they should. What can we do to make this more relevant? Can we answer that? If not, they why should they use it?
11 months, 3 weeks ago by arjw
Just landed on you Jaikunistas after searching far and wide for net noobs.
11 months, 3 weeks ago by topgold
MY EYES! THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
11 months, 3 weeks ago by Festoon